This interview was conducted in Chemnitz by Hildegard Forst, a social worker for the Chemnitz city government in the Chemnitz central police station. The person being interviewed is Christina Von Wiesacker, age 15, whose claims to be related to certain high officials of the Federal Republic are entirely unfounded. This interview took place on February 4, 1997. Int: What is your name? CvW: Fuck you. Int: You have to answer some questions before I can let you go. CvW: Fuck you. You have to let me go now. Do you know who my uncle is? Int: I do not care who your uncle- CvW: Richard Von Wiesacker. The former President. Int: I doubt it. CvW: You have to let me go. Int: This is the second time you were picked up in that area. You must answer my questions before you are released into your parents' custody. You know that as well as I do. CvW: Fuck you. Christina von WIESACKER. Int: You don't have to shout. CvW: Cunt. Int: How old are you. CvW: Eighteen. Int: Uh-huh. CvW: Don't believe me? Int: You look like you're twelve. CvW: Maybe I am. Int: What were you doing in that house? CvW: Hanging out with my friends. Int: The Police report indicates that your friends are all heroin addicts. CvW: If you know, why are you asking? Int: Because I have to. Do you use heroin? CvW: So what if I do? Int: If you do, we can help you get off it. CvW: I can quit anytime I want to. Int: How long have you been a user? CvW: About two months. Int: Why? CvW: Why? Int: Yes, why? CvW: What a fucking stupid question. Because it makes me feel good? Because it helps me forget things? Its just wonderful. There's nothing better. I have a friend with a reason. Int: What is your friend's reason? CvW: She had been tortured, and they raped her in prison. She could only feel good, only forget that it had happened when she was having sex. But she could only enjoy having sex when she was being hurt. Heroin helped her out of that. Int: There are other ways of dealing with that. CvW: She couldn't do that. She was hiding. People were after her. Int: Your friend sounds like she needs some help. Have you ever heard of a medical condition called paranoia? CvW: Of course I've fucking heard of paranoia. My father's a fucking psychiatrist, you stupid fucking cunt. Int: There isn't any need for that sort of language. CvW: Fuck you. She wasn't paranoid. She had proof. She had the torturer with her. Int: In what sense? CvW: He traveled with her. He was an alcoholic. He was pretty far gone. She used to have him give people blow jobs to get money for the junk. Int: Which is what you do. CvW: So what if I do? I'm always in control. You should see them beg, sometimes. Int: You can get hurt. CvW: As if I haven't been hurt already. I've never been hurt as much as she was. She saved the universe, and look where she ended up. Int: Where was that? CvW: Where I am, only more so. Int: On heroin? As a prostitute? CvW: Yeah, she's on junk, too, but she doesn't let anyone touch her. Int: How does she get the money for heroin, then? CvW: I give it to her. Int: What? CvW: She used to get it from her torturer, when he gave people blow jobs. He just drank, and that was cheaper. But guys kept robbing him, so he doesn't do it anymore. Int: This woman is your pimp? CvW: No. Aren't you listening, shithead? I give it to her. I give it to her because she saved the world. Because she saved me. She showed me how junk could save me. Everyone was afraid of her, but she was nice to me because everyone called me Kitty. Int: I need to know this woman's name. CvW: No. Int: You must tell me. CvW: No. I just have to tell you if I'm on drugs, and if I have been sexually active. I've told you. Now let me go. Int: Damn it, I need to know the woman's name, or at least where she can be found. CvW: No. Int: I could hold you as a material witness on a procuring charge. CvW: You couldn't make the charge if you don't know her name. Int: Do you enjoy your life? Do you want her to do this to others? Tell me her name. CvW: No. Int: No what. CvW: No I will not tell you her name. You can't hold me, and I won't leave her. Int: So you're her lover too? CvW: You'd like that wouldn't you? Would you like to watch? No she isn't. I've got a boyfriend. I don't like girls, that way. Int: This is getting us nowhere. CvW: No fucking kidding. Let me go. Int: For the last time, will you tell me her name? It could help to save other young girls and women from her. CvW: Save them from her? We should be on our knees. She saved us all. From space aliens. Int: Here is my card. If you change your mind, give me a call. We can get you into a treatment centre at any time. CvW: Sure.